Missing "watch this channel" option from the program guide

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Missing "watch this channel" option from the program guide

Postby 53ri41 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:42 am

When I select the program guide from the main menu (of MythTV's frontend), navigate to an active show, then select the show, I am not presented with the option to watch that channel live.
I know that it should be present, from watching a you-tube MythTV demo.

Frontend main menu > program guide > select-any-show > I have several recording options, but nothing about watching it live.

dizygotheca wrote: It should appear if you have free tuners that are attached to the 'Video Source' containing the channel.
So misconfigured video sources can prevent it.

I assume (mythtv-setup):
- You've only one video source & both tuners are attached to it.
- You're only using EIT
- Channel scanning worked (reasonably well).

Unforunately logging isn't sufficient here.
If you start a new thread I'll add instructions for dumping the necessary info.


Your 'mythtv-setup' assumptions are correct.
I would say that channel scanning worked very well, I got the expected array of channels, no more, no less, and got the same (or VERY close) scan results from both tuners.

I appreciate your continued support.
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Re: Missing "watch this channel" option from the program gui

Postby dizygotheca » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:38 pm

and got the same (or VERY close) scan results from both tuners
Channels are attached to the (single) video source, so you should only need to scan from one tuner; other tuners using the same video source will get them automatically. However, it shouldn't cause any problems.

Firstly, check it's missing on all/most channels (you haven't just chosen a dud).
Themes could remove the option but I assume you're using a standard one.

Try:
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$mythfrontend -v channel:debug
and post a snippet from when you show the menu:
I'm expecting
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RemoteRequestFreeInputInfo ...
ChanId (...) - no
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Re: Missing "watch this channel" option from the program gui

Postby 53ri41 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:16 pm

dizygotheca wrote:Firstly, check it's missing on all/most channels (you haven't just chosen a dud).
Themes could remove the option but I assume you're using a standard one.

Try:
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$mythfrontend -v channel:debug
and post a snippet from when you show the menu:
I'm expecting
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RemoteRequestFreeInputInfo ...
ChanId (...) - no


I was using the mythbuntu theme, but it's happening on the mythcenter-wide theme as well.
I checked the current time-slot of ALL of the channels, and none of them offer the option to watch live.
I ran the verbose debug command, and went to the menu. In the log, I did not see the strings that you were expecting.
[ mythfrontend log ]

where-to now?
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Re: Missing "watch this channel" option from the program gui

Postby perkins1724 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:12 am

Just to check are you using the menu key (default 'm') or the select key (default 'enter') when you select a program from the guide.

On my theme (it may vary across all themes) if I select the program using 'enter' I get:
Record this showing
Record all showings
Record one showing
etc etc etc

but no 'watch this channel' option

If I select the program using m I get:
Watch this channel
Record This
Recording Options
Program Details
Jump to time
etc etc etc
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Re: Missing "watch this channel" option from the program gui

Postby perkins1724 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:19 am

I have looked at this a little bit today and unless I am mistaken (it happens) two of the options available from the EPG grid are:

SELECT - which is commonly bound to the enter, return and space keys.
MENU - which is commonly bound to the 'm' key.

SELECT brings up a variable list of options depending on the state of the highlighted program but commonly:
Record this showing
Record all showings
Record one showing (this episode)
Record all showings (this channel)
Edit recording rule

But no "Watch this channel" option.

MENU brings up a variable list of options as well but commonly:
Watch This Channel
Record This
Recording Options
Program Details
Jump To Time
Reverse Channel Order
Channel Search

As far as I can tell these option lists are hardcoded and cannot be overridden by the theme so should be identical across all themes.
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Re: Missing "watch this channel" option from the program gui

Postby 53ri41 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:10 pm

perkins1724 wrote:Just to check are you using the menu key (default 'm') or the select key (default 'enter') when you select a program from the guide.
[...]

Thank you Perkins.

I was definitely using the [select] option (sometimes enter, sometimes spacebar). I have not tried [menu] (I won't be able to test until later today).
This will certainly make the setup less remote friendly, if I need a unique [select] to have the option to watch a program from the epg.

Within the EPG, if [menu] displays the option to watch live TV, then this thread is solved, and thank you all for your help.
-Cyril

Is there a benefit or purpose to NOT have the watch option present during a [select] key-press? I imagine that's the default choice and expectation of most users looking for program options while in the epg*. Perhaps I need to better understand the intended workflow of mythtv.
Admittedly, my PVR expectations have been shaped by commercial boxes, Windows MCE, and JRIVER; I usually start at the EPG if looking for something to watch (OR record), or I start at recorded shows, to catch up on stuff.

* Or [select] immediately tunes the station, while [menu] displays options (including watch live)

...new thread, I suppose...
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